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Virgina IS NOT THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS


Which includes the Tenth Amendment in case you didn't know, shar.

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The Bill of Rights


Bill of Rights, in the United States, the first 10 amendments to the U.S. Constitution, which were adopted as a single unit on December 15, 1791, and which constitute a collection of mutually reinforcing guarantees of individual rights and of limitations on federal and state governments.

U.S. Bill of Rights, 1791.


The Bill of Rights derives from the Magna Carta (1215), the English Bill of Rights (1689), the colonial struggle against king and Parliament, and a gradually broadening concept of equality among the American people. Virginia’s 1776 Declaration of Rights, drafted chiefly by George Mason, was a notable forerunner. Besides being axioms of government, the guarantees in the Bill of Rights have binding legal force. Acts of Congress in conflict with them may be voided by the U.S. Supreme Court when the question of the constitutionality of such acts arises in litigation (see judicial review).

The Constitution in its main body forbids suspension of the writ of habeas corpus except in cases of rebellion or invasion (Article I, section 9); prohibits state or federal bills of attainder and ex post facto laws (I, 9, 10); requires that all crimes against the United States be tried by jury in the state where committed (III, 2); limits the definition, trial, and punishment of treason (III, 3); prohibits titles of nobility (I, 9) and religious tests for office holding (VI); guarantees a republican form of government in every state (IV, 4); and assures each citizen the privileges and immunities of the citizens of the several states (IV, 2).

Popular dissatisfaction with the limited guarantees of the main body of the Constitution expressed in the state conventions called to ratify it led to demands and promises that the first Congress of the United States satisfied by submitting to the states 12 amendments. Ten were ratified. (The second of the 12 amendments, which required any change to the rate of compensation for congressional members to take effect only after the subsequent election in the House of Representatives, was ratified as the Twenty-seventh Amendment in 1992.) Individual states being subject to their own bills of rights, these amendments were limited to restraining the federal government. The Senate refused to submit James Madison’s amendment (approved by the House of Representatives) protecting religious liberty, freedom of the press, and trial by jury against violation by the states.

Under the First Amendment, Congress can make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise, or abridging freedom of speech or press or the right to assemble and petition for redress of grievances. Hostility to standing armies found expression in the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the people’s right to bear arms and in the Third Amendment’s prohibition of the involuntary quartering of soldiers in private houses.

The Fourth Amendment secures the people against unreasonable searches and seizures and forbids the issuance of warrants except upon probable cause and directed to specific persons and places. The Fifth Amendment requires grand jury indictment in prosecutions for major crimes and prohibits double jeopardy for a single offense. It provides that no person shall be compelled to testify against himself and forbids the taking of life, liberty, or property without due process of law and the taking of private property for public use (eminent domain) without just compensation. By the Sixth Amendment, an accused person is to have a speedy public trial by jury, to be informed of the nature of the accusation, to be confronted with prosecution witnesses, and to have the assistance of counsel. The Seventh Amendment formally established the right to trial by jury in civil cases. Excessive bail or fines and cruel and unusual punishment are forbidden by the Eighth Amendment. The Ninth Amendment protects unenumerated residual rights of the people, and, by the Tenth, powers not delegated to the United States are reserved to the states or the people.


After the Civil War (1861–65), slavery was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, and the Fourteenth Amendment (1868) declared that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction are citizens thereof. It forbids the states to abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States or to deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Beginning in the early 20th century, the Supreme Court used the due process clause to gradually incorporate, or apply against the states, most of the guarantees contained in the Bill of Rights, which formerly had been understood to apply only against the federal government. Thus, the due process clause finally made effective the major portion of Madison’s unaccepted 1789 proposal.

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power of the courts of a country to examine the actions of the legislative, executive, and administrative arms of the government and to determine whether such actions are consistent with the constitution...



BTW, shar, the fact that George Mason was a Virginian does not automatically endow Virginians, past and future, with some special aura of virtue!!!

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BTW, shar, the fact that George Mason was a Virginian does not automatically endow Virginians, past and future, with some special aura of virtue!!!



Aww... c'mon Crogin!
That's the only "virtuous" thing that he can claim for himself and his state.

Something that happened more than 250 years ago!

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More than 250 years ago? As in, before 1767?

Dum-dums certainly aren't regarded as scholars of history.


Crogs, I appreciate your need for a gotcha. But the Magna Carta did not address the concerns that are addressed by the 10th. Those ideas were born and took hold in Virginia, by Virginians.

And, as I'm sure your furious googling will reveal, Virginia allowed the nation to have the Bill of Rights. You will see that the amendments passed when, and only when Virginia decided to approve them.

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"Allowed?"

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And, lest you forget, VA was only one of 13.

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Crogs, I appreciate your need for a gotcha. But the Magna Carta did not address the concerns that are addressed by the 10th



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Keep reading Polly. Virginia was the holdout until the other 12 agreed to our demands. The other 12 didn't have the foresight to do it correctly. Once the concessions were made, we ratified, ALLOWING the process to move forward.

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Sources and links to evidence of this claim, please, shar.

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Your previous "interpretations" of historic "facts" lead me to check out what you are basing your claims on.

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Seriously? You pride yourself on doing your own homework. You are known for bringing your findings in here and posting in big bold caps.

Surely you don't need to make an exception here?

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